Setting the Intention for Exploration

Julie Hilsen (00:09)
Dear God, creator, guides, universe, thank you for bringing Jen and I together on this special day as we create a container, for a life of deep feeling, of exploration, curiosity, of sensuality, a life where we can be free to express ourselves in the ways that are beneficial to our souls and

bring us joy and therefore the whole world has more joy. And so I’m honored to bring forth all Jen’s expertise. I’m just delighted to have this special time to create with her and I ask my guides, my higher self, my angels, any entities for the highest good to come forth and help us to bring forth the message of clarity, of love, of

passion, of worthiness, and anything that supports this message. ask for your clarity and guidance and I open my heart up to this message and to the hearts that need to hear it and the souls that need to soften to this message, again, for the highest good. And I’m just so happy to have all of those who have decided to join us.

And I feel Jen’s team around us. And I’m just so happy and delighted. And I thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And always always God work through us and for us for the highest good. I almost forgot that part. I’m so excited. Thank you. Hello, dear friends. Thanks. I know it’s so fun. So good. Feels good. Hello, dear friends and welcome to life of love.

Jenn (01:43)
That was beautiful. Thank you for that. Lovely, lovely drop in. Yeah, it feels good.

Julie Hilsen (01:54)
where we gather every week. And this week we have a really fun episode planned for you where we’re gonna bring forth a topic that we’ve talked about in the past, but not really this season. So I’m really happy to touch in with this because we get caught up on living our best life. And sometimes it’s all about relationships and sometimes it’s about spirituality and diet. today we’re just gonna peel off.

the overlay and talk about sensuality with an expert. And Jen, it’s Jen Wadke, she’s coming to us. She’s streaming in from Canada, she’s been a sex coach, sensuality, orgasm coach, and she is just…

amazing. I’ve followed her on YouTube for the last six months getting ready for our episode and it’s she’s putting forth some really great stuff and so I’m really happy. Welcome to the show, Jen. I’m so excited to collaborate and create with you.

Jenn (02:49)
Thank you so much for having me.

Julie Hilsen (02:51)
I just wanted honor where everybody is because This stuff gets hard and I think the reason it gets so hard is because there’s been in this overlay of shame taboo Exploitation Predator you predicate. What’s that word when you when you’re a predator?

Jenn (03:14)
Preda…

Predation? I don’t know. That word is not going to the tip of my tongue either. Predator… Predatory?

Julie Hilsen (03:19)
I know there’s a word for

it. Predatory. There’s been a predatory, like, especially with women around their bodies and the sensuality and the power. Like, it’s the power of an orgasm is so overwhelming that it can be scary because we don’t realize how we’re divine conduits of life and the most pure form of life is creation.

my gosh, it’s just, I don’t mean to be bouncing around, but I saw this video of conception and the spark when the egg and the sperm meet, there’s a burst of light at that moment. And I don’t want to get into when does life begin and all that, because that’s like a personal choice and that’s like whatever, know, I can’t preach anyone beliefs, but there is a spark of God light when that happens.

And so of course when you have an orgasm, that’s all in the same field, right? It’s like powerful stuff. It’s like what we, our highest creation is happening and it may have an orgasm, it may not, but it’s all related. So it’s just a beautiful expression of our divinity. And I would love, I would love for people to accept it as their divinity and not let this overlay

clouded. So that’s sort of where I want to jump off on and your experience, I’d love for you to share like a story or something that’s coming to your heart about that whole thing about the overlay.

The Divine Connection of Pleasure and Forgiveness

Jenn (04:56)
Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head in that I think, you know, whatever your sort of deeper spiritual beliefs might be around, you know, where life begins, conception, pleasure, orgasm. I think we have to acknowledge that pleasure and our orgasm is divine. Like we are the only creatures that derive, the primate family, I should say, not only humans, but the primate family. But we have…

Julie Hilsen (05:22)
yeah, we sent some monkeys.

Jenn (05:23)
Yeah, but we have these bodies

that are capable of such deep, deep bliss and pleasure, both on our own and with a partner, and to not honor that and to, like you said, of overlay it with shame, be it from culture, from religion, spirituality. There’s so many places in our sex negative world where we can take on that shame that can really…

stop us from getting into that pleasure and that orgasm. And I think it’s unfortunate that we don’t recognize as a society that that pleasure, that orgasm is absolutely a conduit into the divine, whatever that you’d believe the divine to be, right? That’s very personal. You know, and I was, I do sex magic by myself and I lead some sex.

sex magic sessions at times. And sometimes I just want to have an orgasm to help myself fall asleep, know, whatever it may be. And so I was having a masturbation session that like, I just wanted to orgasm. And at the moment of orgasm, I had this connection to the divine where I forgave somebody that I had been really deeply angry at. And I was so mad, I was like,

I don’t forgive him. What was that? That’s utter nonsense. Forgive him. And so I sat there, I sat with it, because it just came completely unbidden, right, through the channel of my pleasure and my orgasm. And so I kind of sat with it and I went, it’s true. Like, you can’t lie to yourself during those moments of deep pleasure and orgasm because it is so spiritual, it is so divine. And

Julie Hilsen (06:39)
You

Jenn (06:59)
So that really, forgiveness that came unbidden really helped me move through my own anger toward this person and move through the hurt that was underneath that and really helped me evolve as a person and that relationship wound up becoming repaired, which I mean, that’s good for everybody. So, you we can really use our pleasure and orgasm to really help with our personal growth, with our transformation, with that, with.

All of the great stuff that goes along with divinity, like forgiveness, kindness, compassion, and empathy, right? Like it’s not only for pleasure, it is a portal to so many other high vibration experiences.

Julie Hilsen (07:35)
And I think that might be part of why it’s been such a taboo subject because so many things in our culture that are powerful for the individual are foofooed and dumbed down that I think this is just another one of those overlays that we gotta be like, okay, like this doesn’t work anymore.

We see through this. We see through a lot of the pharmaceutical stuff, the industrial complex of food control and this kind of stuff where they’re high, big business hides certain things about nutrition so that we have to keep taking their money-driven pills. And how many pills just mask the symptoms and you just take a pill for this and a pill for that and.

And it’s based, it’s symptom based medicine, not healing medicine. this is a, love how you brought that forward, how you can use it for other things other than just not just, but pleasure, yes. And.

Jenn (08:38)
Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (08:40)
And so can you go through those again because you said them so fast and maybe you want to dig into a couple of them because I mean when you said sex magic like something went off in me like wait this could be dangerous like there are these things in our consciousness that say danger danger like what is it but if you’re curious and you’re open-minded you can make a discernment

Jenn (08:40)
Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, totally.

Yeah, yeah.

Julie Hilsen (09:05)
Because that’s the biggest thing is deciding what works for you without letting that overlay or whatever conditioning that subconscious fear paradigm because you used to get burned at the stake for having magic, right? And this is another another layer and not all magic is dark. Like this is very light. So yeah, can you go into that and sort of ramble?

Jenn (09:19)
Absolutely.

Yeah, where to start? So many

things that you said in that comment sort of just sparked, like where do I start? You know what, I wanna start, I think, with you express that your gut reaction was like, ooh, sex magic is dangerous. And I think could be dangerous, something feels dangerous. I think, know, it was women who were born, burnt at the stake primarily as witches. I think…

That whole idea is really has been woven into us as a society for 2000 years that female sexuality can be dangerous. Like a woman who’s out there having pleasure and sex with whoever she wants, like that is dangerous, even to this day, to the people in power, just not to get political. But if you look at what’s happened since the election, like there is a collective women are in their feelings about this because it it feels they’re scared.

Julie Hilsen (10:16)
Mm-hmm.

Jenn (10:18)
And so there’s a lot of unwinding that has to be done around how we have historically allowed women to inhabit their sexuality and it’s been controlled for so, long, right? It wasn’t that long ago that if a woman had a child at a wedlock, she was doomed to a life of poverty because she was shunned and ostracized, right? And we have had just in our…

sort of most more recent history of humanity really constricted how women can behave. But if you go back further than that, like we used to worship goddesses, used to, there are ancient art depictions of men drinking female ejaculate as this powerful elixir, right? And we’ve shifted from that celebration of the female form, the female body, female sexuality, female expression, and we’ve made it

profane almost for women to express sexually and so much is lost when you essentially take half of the population and you say like your deepest the deepest parts I believe of who we are regardless of gender is our sexuality that’s how we most intimately connect with people we forge you know for a lot of us lifelong pair bonds and so when we start restricting how people can express that

you’ve shut down a whole portion of the population, right? And that’s historically that restriction has fallen to more devastating effect on women. if we can understand where that comes from and unpack that, logically first, I think it has to start in the brain. Like there’s nothing dangerous about a woman who has freedom to live her life, her sexual life in the way that she desires. There’s nothing dangerous about that.

So if we can acknowledge that first, then we can start to look at, okay, if this isn’t dangerous, like, how can I express here and what can happen? And sex magic is really about simply allowing the power of your turn on, of your arousal, of your pleasure to help you get into higher states, right? So in my case, I spontaneously went into a state of forgiveness, but…

You know, I’ve led sex magic workshops and I’ve taken myself through sex magic experiences where I just get deeper into my own desires. Like, what do I want out of this life? And I’ve created experiences where I feel so connected to, I connect with goddess, but it could be God, could be the universe, it could be energy, it could be consciousness, whatever somebody resonates with. But you can use this sex magic experience, you know.

to connect, to transform. And like I said, it’s almost impossible to hide who you are. And I think that’s also why so many of us struggle to be vulnerable, right? Because it’s hard, if not impossible, to hide who you are during sex and pleasure. And when we do that, we’re not allowing ourselves to be fully seen by our partner. And there’s something

that can over time be deeply, deeply wounding and unfulfilled about not letting that part of you be seen. So sex magic is a way to sort of, it’s a way in, I think, to allow yourself to open into your own pleasure, into your own orgasm, and to just enjoy it and harness that power for good, whatever the greatest good is for you.

The Importance of Individual Sexual Exploration

Julie Hilsen (13:32)
Yeah, I’ve gotten so much out of that and thank you for clarifying because like knowledge is power and you can take that. it just, I have overheard and I have friends like who go through the motions with their spouses and it’s like.

where I am in my life, either people have gotten divorced and they’re not with somebody or they’ve been with the same person for over 20 years. And so many times I have people in my world who are like, I hear them talk about, it’s not like a sacred time for them with their spouse. And I wanna ask,

do you have sacred time by yourself? Because you can’t you can’t expect them to know everything, whether it’s a man or woman or whatever whatever orientation you are, like you can’t expect that other person to be everything for you. And then you shouldn’t have to cut off that part of yourself.

Jenn (14:31)
Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (14:36)
So I’m not a sex coach or anything, but I’m like, my, it just makes me sad to think that that is a void, that it’s just something that’s pushed in the closet until their partner wants to try or whatever Saturday night or whatever. It’s just like, it’s just sad. And I love for some advice on that.

Jenn (14:45)
Yeah.

Yeah,

think that there in any relationship, like a couple relationship, again, regardless of gender orientation, I think there’s our three sexualities. There’s partner A, partner B, and who you are together, right? So how I spend time, I find it’s, I think it’s so vital to spend time with yourself alone sexually, where you don’t have to explain to your partner, you’re not performing for your partner. You are spending time with your own body, with your own psyche, with your soul.

with your pleasure simply to enjoy that and to experience that. And there is huge potential for growth into your own pleasure abilities by yourself. And I think what so many people fall into is they become coupled, partnered, married, whatever. And that individual piece sort of falls away.

And I think that that’s a real tragedy because that time by yourself is an amazing place to play, right? And your partner can be doing the same. And then you come together as you’re growing on your own, you’re playing on your own, you have new ways to come together. You have new experiences to grow on, right? And no two people will ever fit together perfectly, right? Like I’ve had partners where, you know, he’s not into some of the kinks that I’m not into. Well, okay.

I play with those in my mind by myself then, right? My partner can’t fulfill those. And I, like you said, can’t always fulfill everything for my partner. But if we allow each other this space to pleasure and play alone and know that the other is doing it, but they don’t need to explain it, but it allows this energetic flow of pleasure, I believe, like through each of us and then with our partner that can really, really expand your ability.

to have these mind blowing, spiritual, life changing orgasms when you are together. And it just allows you to grow sexually together as well. So I think that’s one thing I would say to anyone listening, if you’re partnered, don’t turn that piece off. You’re turning off a vital, vital part of your sex life when you stop masturbating just because you’re partnered.

Julie Hilsen (17:05)
That’s amazing. It’s amazing insight and it’s just such a fun thing to look at and I’m so happy we’re able to talk about it this way. What came to me was could we give ourselves permission because maybe they never had permission. Maybe they were four-year-old in the bathtub and their parents are like, what are you doing? No, no, no.

Jenn (17:29)
Mm-hmm.

Julie Hilsen (17:31)
Like,

and I know it happens, right? Like we, our parents aren’t perfect. They didn’t, they don’t know this stuff that we know now that there’s normal things that little kids do and it’s okay. Like.

there so I I would love for you to I don’t know if you’ve done it this way but if you could like give a permission statement like if you’re gonna write a permission slip to somebody who feels shame about going there by themselves for whatever reason would you write them a permission slip could you do that for my audience

Jenn (17:57)
Mm-hmm. Yes.

yeah, I’ve got a big thick pad. And I would just

say that you absolutely are entitled to experience your own body, your own pleasure, your own orgasm, and your enjoyment of that by yourself in any way that feels good. And I know a lot of people especially have shame about some of their fantasies. Whatever goes on in your head, that’s in here.

that’s not on the outside, doesn’t mean you want to do it, doesn’t mean you think poorly of somebody. It’s all play, it’s fantasy, it’s…

We were given this, the ability to orgasm by ourselves. We can do that alone and with a partner and everybody should feel permission from, I’m just some random woman on the internet, but I believe everybody should feel permission from their higher power to enjoy who they are fully. That’s what we’re here for. That’s the only reason we are in this life is to enjoy and to connect with others, to connect with the divine, right?

Sexuality is a part of that. you can’t separate our sexuality from who we are as people. It’s so important. It’s so deeply ingrained in us, in our personality. So please, go forth, enjoy.

Julie Hilsen (19:20)
Alright, so, okay, so if you’re listening,

I want you to do this. I want you to say, I, and state your name. I, Julie, Julie Hilsen, give myself permission to live my divine, happy, joyful life and experience pleasure in any way I can think of. And it is good and fine. And in

Jenn (19:26)
haha

Julie Hilsen (19:46)
Repeat that to yourself. Like put it out there. They say if you say it three times, repeat.

Jenn (19:51)
and say it while you’re masturbating,

while you’re in pleasure. Like it’s so powerful and it’s, yes, yes. And you know, that’s part of sex magic too is using, when I’m coaching clients one-on-one, we don’t have any sort of sexual things happening in session, but often for homework, they are, whatever we happen to be working on, they are often given,

Julie Hilsen (19:57)
I give myself permission to feel this and feel good. There you go.

activity. Yeah. Yeah.

Jenn (20:16)
pleasure homework because when we enter these states of pleasure, that’s a divine state. So if somebody can have that permission slip in their head and repeat it to themselves during a session when they’re in pleasure or orgasm, that’s gonna make it so much more powerful. And why it is so powerful is that we have to, our brain can say things, right?

But until it becomes a lived truth in the body, we don’t experience it as real. So when we are in pleasure or when we are in pleasure or an orgasm state, the body is experiencing that as real. So if we say, in that state, I give myself permission to experience all of the pleasure that is available, that now becomes something the body has experienced as real and safe. And that’s.

is where we start to transform our pleasure abilities, our orgasmic abilities, and really anything we want to change in our life that’s outside of the sexual. So, yeah.

Julie Hilsen (21:16)
Wow, I

mean, this brings me back to an episode I did on like the inner child. And you can hold your hand on your heart and tell your inner child, I’ve got this.

You’re safe. Whatever happened, if you were mistreated, if somebody took advantage of your innocence, whatever. There’s so many things that have happened to women that, you know, just to hold your hand on your heart and say to your child self who went through that, like, I see you, but I’m in charge now and I’m, you’re safe and everything is safe and good. Yeah.

And I just, holding space for anyone struggling with that because it’s real. It’s real. And even if you were exposed to pornography at a point where you didn’t understand or you weren’t able to process, you know, like there’s things on the internet that are very violent and sick around this. And so to address that to your heart and say, that’s not part of what I’m about. This isn’t what my highest expression is. That was,

was an overlay or that was somebody who’s dealing with their thing but you’re not gonna let that affect your joy and your divinity. It gets heavy. It gets heavy fast and I’m sure you’ve dealt with people who have this kind of you know it’s in your field it like stays with you until you say no more like that’s over that I’m I’m releasing that it no longer serves me.

Jenn (22:29)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Reclaiming the Divine Feminine

Yeah, we, think every single one of us has a lot of conditioning that we’ve taken on, because we don’t live in a sex positive society, right? So we’ve taken on, shame is a shame is a big one. And especially for women, there’s a lot of concern about body image, right? So we, so many of us have, you know, unconsciously taken on

these beliefs that become limitations to us fully experiencing who, you our pleasure, our body, our orgasm. And a lot of that stems from a deep sense of unworthiness. Like, you know, I don’t look like I’m supposed to look. So what good am I as a potential partner? And he can’t possibly find me attractive or she can’t possibly want to sleep with me. Like we hit so many, so much of that just.

starts living inside of us in the body. this is what I, going back to what I was mentioning before, like when we want to uncover all of that and release it, we have to go into the body. Everything is stored in the body. We have to liberate all of that. But then we have such potential, we have the potential to create what we want to get what we want. And it’s unlimited. Like one thing I say over and over, there is un…

limited pleasure for you in the world. To everyone who’s listening, if there’s one thing I know to be true in the world, it’s that you have an infinite capacity for pleasure.

Julie Hilsen (24:12)
Yeah, it doesn’t stop when you’re not, you know, your 25 year old body. Like it doesn’t, it doesn’t have to. Right?

Jenn (24:14)
Yeah.

And you’re

right in that it can be hard work, right? Because we have to go and we have to, before we can release some of those beliefs and limitations that we’ve taken on, we have to look at them. And that can be difficult, that can be painful. And that’s where a coach can come in, they hold you through that. You can do a lot of the work on your own, you know, with guidance as to what to do, but…

Julie Hilsen (24:34)
is scary.

Jenn (24:44)
you know, a good coach will hold you through that, guide you through that and teach you how to do that for yourself, right? So a good coach will give you tools that you can continue this work, because I know there’s not a lot of us who can pay for coaching indefinitely, right? But a good coach will guide you through it and give you tools so that you can continue the work on your own as needed. But it is, you know, don’t wanna, it’s fun work. I think it’s really amazing fun work, but I don’t wanna give

people the wrong idea that like, you you start working your sexuality and boom, like you have to look at some of your ugly and some of that gunk that we, you know, we all have it deep down inside of us somewhere. And we have to look at it to be able to release it. But once you start that process, like it’s so amazing. It’s so powerful. And it’s so empowering to know that you have the power.

to change anything you want to change in your sexuality in your life. Like, it’s the most empowering thing I can think of and that’s why I do this work.

Julie Hilsen (25:42)
And you know, just to, if you can tell yourself you’re beautiful, just look at yourself in the mirror and just be like, damn, I’m beautiful. Not staring at your nose or looking at your eyebrows or, know what mean? Just look at your whole aura and just give yourself a compliment because…

This is, it’s not easy being here and we are so self-critical. There’s so much coming at us about creams and hormones and you know.

styles and I’m not against it. Like I really think that if you buy yourself a really nice pair of underwear that you feel good in, that’s a good thing. Like I’m not saying all of this is for nothing. I think if you can put on a lotion that sparks you, that’s a great thing. Like there’s so many tools that you can use, but they’re tools. They’re not you. know, like your core is the most important thing and you’re not doing these things to cover up your

for

you’re supplementing yourself. So I mean, I would love I would love to, you know, put that out there. It’s not about your outfit. It’s not about your purse or your eyeliner. It’s about what you bring and when it comes down to it, anyone, if you decide to share that divinity with somebody else, they’re not looking at your deficiency, they’re looking, you know, you’re in that place because there’s there’s a chemistry already, you don’t have to be self critical, because you’re so much more critical than anyone else is going to be. It’s just

Jenn (27:02)
Yeah.

Totally.

Julie Hilsen (27:11)
It’s on everything, right? We criticize ourselves about everything about our lives. So of course, this intimate thing, this exposure is going to exacerbate that insecurity.

Jenn (27:24)
You know,

in my coaching training, I took that to the insane degree. So one of the modules, the homework in the modules was to self-pleasure while you looked at yourself in the mirror. And I was like, ugh, I’m raging. I was like, my God, are you kidding? And I was like, but there was a commitment, right? I had a commitment. I was like, I paid good money in this course. I want to be…

a sex coach who can hold this space for women and I have to do it myself and I’m gonna do it. I’m gonna get everything I’m meant to get out of this course. So I just went for it. I did dim the lights, put some candles on, set the whole stage, I think I put some tunes on, had the whole romantic sort of space and it was just me. And then I did the practice of self-pleasuring in front of the mirror and at first I was like, my God.

Not that much later, was like, damn girl, like who would say no to this? Like there is something really powerful about, you know, we allow ourselves to be seen by our partners in that state, but we never look at ourselves in that state. And there, what for me was something really, really powerful about holding myself in that vulnerable position.

and to realize that I could do that, I could hold that for myself and I could find beauty in the experience. And like you said, like I wasn’t looking at any specific part of myself or my body. was looking, it kind of became like fuzzy and haloed. Like I was looking at myself not as we look, I think so often at women, especially as like parts, like, look at her tits or like she’s got a great ass or whatever.

I wasn’t looking at any of that. It was like this golden glow of myself as this divine being who is capable of enjoying pleasure. And it came very quickly out of like, my God, I gotta watch myself masturbating to witnessing myself in my full feminine divine power. And it was such an amazing experience. Such an amazing experience. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (29:31)
Yay!

And to me, I pictured a goddess. Like, when you’re describing that, I just saw you as a goddess. And every woman should feel like a goddess because we are all goddesses. We’re all beloved goddesses. And so anyone who’s struggling with this, just look at Goddess Jen. And she shared this awesome experience. And if you need the if you need some courage, just remember her and like

Jenn (29:42)
Yes.

Yes.

Julie Hilsen (30:01)
This is something available to you if you choose to experience the highest pleasure that you can have because nobody knows your body like you know your body and it’s not that you’re, you know, some deviant. It’s just knowing yourself and…

So yeah, this is really, this really been a magical conversation. I can’t believe we’ve been talking for this whole time and it’s like, we’re time’s up. But yeah, I mean, you’re, you have an active YouTube channel. And so I want everyone to know about that and I’ll put the link.

Jenn (30:24)
I know.

Yes.

Julie Hilsen (30:34)
And I’ll tag you on my YouTube channel too so that people can follow it. But what else do you have coming up? mean, you just got back from Japan. What did you, give me a sex tip from Japan.

Jenn (30:42)
Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (30:47)
No, I don’t want put you on the spot.

Jenn (30:48)
You know what, this is the first

time, I’ve been to Japan many times, this is my first time, my God, since I was a baby face university graduate, that I’ve been working in Japan. Because all the other times I’ve been, I just was between work. So I didn’t.

Julie Hilsen (31:04)
You were a tourist, but now you are working there. Okay.

Jenn (31:06)
Yeah, yeah, so

I didn’t really…

Julie Hilsen (31:12)
Is there a major difference between like American or Canadian, American, North American versus the island of Japan?

Jenn (31:18)
I think every culture does

have their own flavor around sexuality. I find it’s not talked about as much in Japan, I think. And it can be hard to make Japanese friends. there have been a couple times where I’ve gotten a group of Japanese women together in private, like in our private karaoke room.

we’ve gotten a little drunk and then they start to open up. you know, I guess maybe that’s something to offer as well. Like if you need to take a little bit of liquid courage to not to the point of being drunk, but I don’t think there’s any shame in having a glass of wine if it can help you lower that tiny bit of inhibition.

I think talking about it with friends sometimes we don’t talk about it, but like, and I’m not saying go talk about your partner, but I’ve found something very powerful and that experience happened to have been with Japanese women. I’ve had it with women at home as well. But when women talk about their sexuality and their pleasure, I always feel like it’s reclaiming a sisterhood and reclaiming that goddesshood that’s been lost.

Julie Hilsen (32:21)
Yes! Yes! Mm-hmm.

Jenn (32:23)
I was guided

as again, part of my coaching training through this massive sex magic ritual, all of us together the woman who was leading us through it said, we are the daughters that they didn’t manage to burn at the stake.

which was incredibly powerful. And also the recognition that women used to do this. Women used to have women’s circles and get together and just luxuriate in the divine. It doesn’t need to be sexual, But women used to get together and feel this divine goddess energy and we’ve lost that. And…

And I think there really needs to be a reclamation. I think our world will not rebalance until we allow the amazing properties of feminine energy and divine feminine to come in and balance out some of the more, you know, if when there’s too much masculinity, it can be tip over into violence and to oppression.

Julie Hilsen (33:18)
You’re right, that’s war.

That’s war, if you ask me.

The Call for Balance in Feminine Energy

Jenn (33:20)
Right, yeah, so we need the

feminine, we need women to step into their divine as not only for what it can do on an individual level, but for the power that it can bring into the world to create the changes that we so desperately need to rebalance and to love each other and to bring in compassion so that we all have equal access to resources, so that nobody’s in poverty, so that nobody’s, you know,

Oppressed everybody has the freedom to be who they are and I think we so desperately need that feminine energy. So That’s I think one of the key things I want to leave your listeners with is is to go Be with your sisters like feel the energy of sisterhood and the divine feminine that is so desperately needed and I think we’re so hungry for

Julie Hilsen (34:06)
Yes, yes. And it doesn’t have to be like a girl’s trip. I mean, those are great. Don’t get me wrong. But it takes so much planning, right? And resources. Maybe it’s just getting together, lighting some candles and watching a rom-com. Or even like, you know, getting together and I didn’t done this in years, but I used to before I got so busy, I used to like, have a craft, like we do a craft together, whether it be stitching like a heart on a sweater. I did that one Valentine’s Day,

Jenn (34:10)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (34:33)
just

cross stitching sweaters, like a little design to make a plain sweater, like sort of sweet. Or, you know, just think about what you like to do. And it doesn’t always have to be like going out and getting drunk. Maybe you’re maybe you have a glass of wine with your friends, but maybe it’s more about the activity and the camaraderie than than some kind of event. I don’t know. That’s what I’m drawn to say.

Jenn (34:53)
You know, another

That just sparked a really great memory. This is, I wanna give credit, I believe this is adapted from Mama Gina, who ran, I don’t know if she’s still at, Mama Gina, if you Google Mama Gina, you will find her. This is derived from one of her exercises, and you can do it via text with your girlfriend.

just text each other every morning and you say one brag, I’m trying to remember exactly the wording, it’s one brag, because we never give women, rarely give ourselves praise. So you text one brag, something you’re grateful for and a desire. And so you do it to each other, right? And it’s giving yourself permission to like toot your own horn, like, because that’s women.

Julie Hilsen (35:27)
I love this! Yeah!

Jenn (35:35)
often put everybody else first. it’s like, no. And it can be anything, right? It’s like, know, my hair is brag, my hair is amazing today, gratitude. You know, it could be like, I had a really great cup of coffee, whatever it is, it doesn’t have to be these big, big things. And desire is like, you know, today, I desire to bring one more client into my coaching business, right? So it could be anything. And you do that for each other. So you hold space for each other. And it’s by text. So don’t take up a huge amount of your day. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (36:00)
Yeah, I mean, we have, it’s so easy.

Like, I love that. I really do love that. And create your own sisterhood. You I was looking at goddess temples and there’s not many in the world.

Jenn (36:11)
There needs to be more, for sure.

Julie Hilsen (36:13)
But we’re being called the Sisters of the Rose. I’m a member in the group. It’s really hard to find people that want to get together and do the meditations together and perform. There’s this goddess vortex meditation that we do where you spin. there’s so many, like I had women are like, I don’t want to spin. It’s like, well, that’s the goddess vortex. know, like that’s your power. When you’re spinning, you’re building up the power. So it’s been really fun for me to.

put myself out there as a leader of a goddess vortex meditation and have like people say, well, that doesn’t work for me. And I’m like, well, I’m still dedicated, like I’m still dedicated to bringing the divine feminine forward. So I honor your time. And I’m so happy that you brought that up because it reaffirms my commitment to the goddess energy and not taking anything away from Jesus or God or you know, like, all of that is, is very pertinent, very valid. They’re not taking

away from that. I’m just saying your goddess, your inner divinity is also a way to feeling holy and none of it should be put in a box because when you isolate yourself, that’s removing yourself from the collective and the biggest myth is that we’re separated.

Jenn (37:16)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah. So

I wanted to offer to your listeners, I’m not sure if you could put a link, if anybody is listening and enjoys, you know, sort of my no filter goddess. I just wanted to offer, if anybody wants to talk directly to me, we could put a link to a discovery call. I have options raising options to work with me from five bucks all the way up to one-on-one coaching, which is obviously the most expensive.

Julie Hilsen (37:32)
Yeah.

Jenn (37:48)
but there’s some cheaper options in there too. And the call is completely free. There’s absolutely no obligation. So I want to invite anybody listening to feel free to go ahead and book that. And I look forward to chatting to anybody who’s interested.

Julie Hilsen (38:02)
I will put that in the link that the info so that’s awesome. Thank you so much. This has been such a delight.

Jenn (38:07)
Thank you.