Julie Hilsen (00:06)
Hello, dear friends and welcome to another episode of Life of Love. I’m eagerly anticipating this beautiful conversation. And I’m so happy you’re here and listening again and you’re sharing these episodes because we’re all adding to this light grid that’s increasing across our earth. I know there’s a lot of chaos and revelations happening right now, but we stay in our hearts and we stay in our joy and our freedom of expression. can

transmute things that no longer serve humanity and we’re all working on it together, whether we realize it or not. So I thank you for tuning into your heart and taking this time to be with us today. So as new listeners might not realize, I set an intention and we get settled into our hearts before these episodes. So I’m going to take a few moments just to do that. And I invite you if you’re in a safe place to close your eyes and just sort of be in your body.

I’m connecting my feet to the ground.

Thank you, Mother Gaia, for supporting me, for supporting our life here. Thank you for the sustenance and the gifts. And I’m connecting to my heart. I’m calling in my guides, my angelics. I thank you, God, goddess, creator, universe, for bringing us together. Dr. Greta Chamberlain, I welcome her team to collaborate with my team as they see.

appropriate as this resonance and this synchronicity provides for us.

I’m seeing bright purple sparkles right now in my mind’s eye. And that’s always really reassuring that our teams are happy to be together. And I honor this container we’re creating. I honor each person, each soul that’s listening with an open heart and with their ears to perceive what their soul is asking for. And I hope that each person comes away with what they need today.

And I ask this for the highest good for every being, every soul, everyone involved as we create this earth, the earth that we wanna live in, the earth we wanna pass on to our children.

And we honor these beautiful star seeds that are coming into this earth plane with us right now and helping us transform to the new earth and and the beautiful grid of of light that we’re happy we’re happy to add to to sustain as we ask. The higher beings of angelics it can take away pain or suffering and and take away this to take it to somewhere.

where it’s served better, where it’s transmuted and brought back into life as something honorable and loving. And we come with you and with us with an open heart. And I thank Greta for saying yes. And so it is. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Dr. Greta Chamberlain, you’re coming from Chicago and I’m so excited to welcome you to Life of Love. I can’t think of a more appropriate guest. mean, you’re dedicated to helping people live just toward unconditional love and a deeper understanding of how we consciously create reality. So, I mean, this is such an alignment.

I’m just so honored to have you on my show and to share your message with my community. So thanks again for saying yes.

Gretta Chamberlain (03:28)
Thank you for having me. You know, this is where so much you and I were previously talking before we came on our line. And we just have a lot in common, and we’re in alignment together. So this is an honor to be here with you and your community that you serve. It’s wonderful.

Julie Hilsen (03:48)
It is I’m just just a little sweet and gooey

Well, I mean, I like to start out with the beginning and something that sparked me when I was learning about you is that you said you had experienced this as a child and you’ve been connected to other realms of consciousness and spirituality since a young age. And I just wondered if you’d share how that showed up for you.

And then also if we could help other people recognize this in children around them, whether it’s your grandchild or your niece or nephew or your own child. mean, how do we foster this understanding and this connection with our children who are open books? did you have someone that helped you with your abilities or?

where you sort of lone wolfing it as many in the spiritual community have done over the years. I’d love to hear that part of your story.

Gretta Chamberlain (04:49)
You know, it began with me running up and down the steps in my great grandfather’s house. We lived in this, it’s an old house, like a Victorian house, and had the long staircase. And every time I would walk down the staircase, well, not every time, I can’t even read, you know, when I think about it, I can’t really remember the age that it started.

But I remember I was young, I was younger than 10, and I would run down the steps because I would hear voices calling me Greta, Greta. And I’m going, hmm. I said I, so it became a game with me. So I was, the idea was that I was gonna run so fast that when I got to the bottom, I would have beat them before they could tell, call my name.

So I would run down. I’d say, dang, they got me again. And then when it was time for me to go up, I said, OK. I remember standing back and getting ready. You know how you get ready? You rev yourself up. And I’d run up the steps, but they got me again. So every time, I said, what are these things calling me? Stop calling my name. And you know what? Now that I’m thinking about it, I don’t think I ever told my mother.

The only time that I would, I told my mother about Mr. Lawrence. Mr. Lawrence was a man on our block, older gentleman. I can’t remember how old he was, but all the kids, including myself on the block, we would always go to Mr. Lawrence’s house, play in front of his house. He would sit out on the porch. You know, we would talk to him and he would talk to us. We all loved Mr. Lawrence.

So one day I woke up, I told my mom, said, Mr. Lawrence is getting ready to die. And my mother said, why are you saying that? I said, because he’s getting ready to die, mama. And it took two days and he died. And then I realized that I could tell when people were coming to die. I just knew that. My mother never talked to me about it.

My great grandfather never told me about his abilities either. So another time it showed up, I have to preface this by saying that my mother put me in a Catholic school. Because at that time, you know, there was a belief that…

a school, a private school education was going to be better than the public school education. So my mother saved her money and they let me in because my father was Catholic. So I spent from kindergarten through eighth grade in that religious environment.

Julie Hilsen (07:27)
Mm-hmm. ⁓

Gretta Chamberlain (07:39)
So you know I was taught about Mother Mary. I was taught about Fatima, how the children of Fatima saw Mother Mary and how she communicated with them. And then there was another one too, Our Lady of Guadalupe. Another one took place where children were presented with Mother Okay, so I’m in my bedroom.

Julie Hilsen (07:57)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (08:05)
and I’m awake and I’m on the second floor. So I see this woman coming from my right side, floating, literally floating, coming through the window, floating across so I could see her and out the wall. So I said, I have just seen Mother Mary because she had on the veil.

You know, she looked like a nun really, but it was white looking and very ethereal. You know, I just couldn’t wait till my mother woke up so I could tell her. I was so eager. I knew I was going to go to the children at the school and the teachers and say, I have seen Mother Mary. You know, I was about to, I was so excited. I was so excited. So when my mother woke up,

Julie Hilsen (08:34)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (08:59)
I told her, mom, mom, I’ve seen Mother Mary. And then she didn’t seem excited. And she just looked at me and she said, Greta, that’s not Mother Mary. That’s the woman who lives in the basement. And when she told me that, that I knew that my mother could see as well.

Julie Hilsen (09:10)
Hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (09:21)
even though, so as I grew up, she told me, don’t tell people the things that you can see or the things that you can do because they think that you are not quite right in the brain. So don’t do that. So consequently, I grew up in a certain, with a certain amount of fear of showing people, well, I can do this, you know.

Julie Hilsen (09:29)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (09:46)
And sometimes you think, if you can do it, everybody else can do it too. So I didn’t see what is the big deal. So then I’m going to segue forward. And I am now, my mother bought her own house. great grandmother died, so my great grandfather came to live with us. I am now 14 years old.

And one day I was sitting in the living room with him and he used to call me daughter. He said, daughter. He would love to tell me stories about living in the South. He lived in Louisiana. So he told me when he used to have a medicine wagon and he would travel the South. He had his own elixirs.

And people would say, Willie’s coming, Willie’s coming. That’s his first name. And so people would come out and he would give them elixirs to help them heal their bodies. Or he told me, said, daughter, I would take a copper penny. Cause you know that that’s really dating me. Cause you know, back then the pennies were really made out of copper. Okay. So.

Julie Hilsen (10:54)
Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (10:55)
So

he said, copper, I put a copper penny here and then I go real fast and make my hands real hot. Well, some people doing reiki do the same thing. But he told me, and he said, and then I would play my hand right over the place where the melody was and he would heal them. So he became known as a healer moving throughout Louisiana.

Julie Hilsen (11:04)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (11:23)
you know, assisting people. So I thought that was an interesting story. You know, I just put it under my basket, you know. I didn’t think anymore about it, but I said what I put with, I mean, my mother had it, my great grandfather had it, and I haven’t. So that’s kind of how I started moving in that, you know.

But the spirituality, my really getting into it didn’t really come until I got married in Africa. I lived in Africa for about four years or so. My first husband died, but he was the one that introduced me to other forms of spirituality. I never went to anybody who was psychic. I never sought.

of the advice of the future, you know, but I was exposed to that through him. So you can see I’m growing bit by bit, growing bit by bit. And he introduced me to the seventh book of Moses.

I don’t know if you’re familiar with it, but it’s a real tiny little book and it has all kinds of sigils or patterns that you can grow, draw on your floor or on the ground because my husband would do things like that. And then conjure, they call it conjuring, conjure up spirits. So I was curious.

So I said, I said, can I do that? He said, sure, you can do it. But he said, I just want to tell you one thing. If you do it, make sure that you can send them back. Don’t send them back, you’re going to be in trouble. And you don’t know they’re going to be very upset that you called upon them. They came for you and you couldn’t send them back where they came from.

So you have to be very careful. needless to say that bestilled me on that project. could think of it would be my luck to conjure up a spirit and then get so excited I can’t even send the thing back. So I said, let me stay away from that. So in Africa, I was exposed to a whole lot of.

Different ways, paranormal things and you know, was a whammy, okay?

Julie Hilsen (13:45)
I bet. Did he know how to send them back? Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (13:48)
Oh yeah,

oh yeah, he would do that. That was just the way he was. I didn’t have a concept about past lives and I’ve changed on that now. But at that time I was only 23 years old. see now I’m 78 years old, going on 79. So.

You know, I’ve had a real long, interesting experience with it. But I just learned so much from him. And one thing he taught me was not to fear anything. Little did I know that I was going to be using that concept and holding on to that concept about not having any fear.

because that allows me to do the work that I do now.

Julie Hilsen (14:40)
Mm-hmm. It does take courage to stand in your power and to claim these abilities. So when did you become a nat… I didn’t want to say it wrong, nat-profess.

Gretta Chamberlain (14:50)
Napropec.

I started off working on a doctorate in clinical psychology. I spent five years studying clinical psychology and I created all kinds of interesting things about it. I just realized that didn’t quite fit. know, when they, I was interviewed by a psychologist and to get into the college.

Julie Hilsen (15:08)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (15:17)
and the School of Psychology, that’s what it is. And I, she said, well, you seem grounded because when I filled out the application, I filled it out based on the abilities that I had also. And I remember my mother saying, why are you doing that? Why are you saying these things?

Julie Hilsen (15:41)
so you included your abilities. Yeah. Good for you.

Gretta Chamberlain (15:44)
Absolutely. how,

because I don’t, I can’t remember the questions now, but it prompted me to answer it that way. And so I found out from the clinical psychologist who had spoken to me, she said that my application was given to another psychologist who then returned it to the person who was heading up.

the student search and said, what am I supposed to do with this?

Julie Hilsen (16:15)
The admissions

department was like, what?

Gretta Chamberlain (16:17)
So then that person took it and gave it to this professor because she was a transpersonal psychologist. So he felt that she was the closest person that I could get to, but have some semblance of understanding where I was coming from. So she interviewed me for over an hour. And then finally she said, she said, okay, you’re grounded. I can recommend you to come in.

She said, I don’t think that you’re going to really like it here. And I said, no, I’m to come here. Because see the realm of beings, I follow their requests for me because I know that the requests are for my good. So I was told by them that you’re to study clinical psychology. I want to preface this though by saying that

If you told me I had to take a psychology class, I would go, God, that was not one of my favorite subjects whatsoever. Even when I was in graduate school, I had to take child psych and all that kind of stuff. I was just, ugh. So now you’ve got to ask me to do a doctorate in clinical psychology. Are you kidding me?

Julie Hilsen (17:33)
Like really guys?

Gretta Chamberlain (17:35)
You know,

so it came a time that I stayed there for five years. I studied and I created to move myself out of there. And I wanted to know, where am I going now? And I remember laying down. Anytime I want to figure something out and it’s not coming to me, I will go and lay down. I will ask the question and I’ll say, okay, I need an answer for this. So I go lay down, I go to sleep.

And then I wake up and I go, and so when I woke up, I said, you have got to be kidding me. That’s what I said to them. Nepropathic medicine. I said, how far can you get from clinical psychology? So I followed the directive. I went down to the school of nephropathic medicine, filled out the application, met with the president of the college.

Julie Hilsen (18:18)
you

Gretta Chamberlain (18:29)
knew and I was getting up I said thank you very much and I started to get up he said where are you going? I said I’m going back home he said no you’re not you’re going to class. has started you’re going to class. So he said just go up those steps and you’ll see the class and it was microbiology so I was in a microbiology class.

Julie Hilsen (18:42)
You

Gretta Chamberlain (18:55)
and three other classes to boot after that.

Julie Hilsen (18:57)
Was

that in your 20s? How old were you? Was it when you got back from Africa or before?

Gretta Chamberlain (19:03)
I came home from Africa. I spent four years there, so four, 27. I was 27, 28 years old. Then the school of, it didn’t come until I was in my 40s.

Julie Hilsen (19:10)
Okay.

So you’re studying microbiology in your 40s. Did the realm of beings help you study for the exams? Like, how did you get through it? I would be like,

Gretta Chamberlain (19:20)
Absolutely.

I can go back to clinical psych. When you asked me that question, I was in some class, I don’t remember what it was, and the teacher divided us up into groups. We were studying different, it was abnormal psych, I think.

and we put us in a group and he brought a little container around, you had to pull what abnormal psych you were gonna need.

Julie Hilsen (19:53)
⁓ What condition

or yeah, yeah, okay

Gretta Chamberlain (19:55)
So our group

wound up with borderline personality disorder, okay? And we read the book. There was a book attached. So you had to read the book that the person who had experienced it, in fact, it was made into a movie. I forgot the name of the movie. But anyway, I forgot that I had to the assignment. So I was upstairs doing something else on my computer. And then I noticed that the team, were two other women.

had sent me an email and they said, Greta, don’t forget our project is due tomorrow and we have not received any of your parts to the PowerPoint. I said, my God. I said, Lord. I said, I have totally forgotten about that.

I said, and I sat there, said, Greta, what are you going to do? What is your part? My part was supposed to show in the book what was in the book that showed that points out that the person was borderline personality disorder. So I just said, I don’t know how to do this. I don’t know how to do this. So I go to sleep. Remember the sleep method. It always works.

Julie Hilsen (21:13)
See ya.

Gretta Chamberlain (21:15)
for me. I went and I said, okay, and I’m talking to the realm. I said, you guys have got to help me. Help me now. got to know. Yeah. I said, show me how I’m going to do this project. You know, so I went to sleep and I woke up and I went, God, are you serious? You know, so I went upstairs. I just, I had to go page by page.

Julie Hilsen (21:22)
Right, they got you into this.

Gretta Chamberlain (21:42)
That’s what they had me doing page by page through that book, pointing out the sentences that supported this woman being borderline personality disorder with the page number and everything to boot. I said, my God, you’ve got to be kidding me. I was, you know, we’re talking about me being up now at about 12 o’clock midnight, because I think I went to bed around nine or 10, and then I woke up.

Okay, so I’m doing this and I’m starting, I’m just starting it from chapter one. And I’m going, Lord, this is gonna take me forever. And you know, I was working, class was at six, I think class was at six. I was working on that thing. I didn’t even, after that I didn’t even go to sleep. I said, my God, this is so much. This is so much to get through this book. I think the book was about 200 pages and something, not three.

And I’m going through all this reading, read, okay, this sentence fits. Okay, this sentence fits. And I told them, I said, you you have given me a lot of work. I I remember, I have conversations with them. I told them you gave me a lot of work. when we, as soon as I finished, I must have finished about four o’clock in the afternoon, I washed up, put on my clothes and drove to school, right? The women had gotten it, everything.

So then it was my turn to present and I presented. My teacher told me, which I think is funny now, but he told me, said, Greta, I’ve never seen anybody do so much work. And to be so accurate about this, you did an excellent job. And of course I was tapping myself on the shoulder. They don’t know what.

Julie Hilsen (23:29)
you

Gretta Chamberlain (23:30)
how I went through it, okay? And then I went to the bathroom and some of the female students were telling me, Greta, you really set the bar real high. know, wasn’t setting anybody’s bar real high. I was just trying to get through the work because I did not want to get an F, okay?

Julie Hilsen (23:39)
Yeah. ⁓

Yeah

You don’t have to take

that class again, right? It’s like, ugh.

Gretta Chamberlain (23:49)
So it

was just, oh my God. So when you say call on the realm, I’m using that as a good example, you know, that they do that. So sometimes I tell them, come on, we got to write this. So when I wrote the album, I just sat down and, you know, it just pours in. You know, at the beginning, I used to think that they, I thought of them as being separate from me when I was younger, know, external.

Julie Hilsen (23:56)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (24:19)
But see, as I’ve grown and matured, I have learned that they’re not separate from me. They’re part of me. So like even when I’m talking to you now, they’re also speaking to you. Yeah, because we’re not separate, which is all one. So when I did the album, I just sat down and wrote. Wrote.

And then it’s okay, we’re finished. I said, okay, we’re through, you know, because I can feel that we’re through. I said, all right, this is all we want to say. said, So that’s kind of it. So now I’m working on a book that goes with the album as well. So yeah.

Julie Hilsen (25:01)
Yes,

and that’s what we were gonna talk about. Your album you released and it’s on Spotify and Apple Music and it’s called Silence? In Silence, which that’s a bold name for audio, like for music.

Gretta Chamberlain (25:10)
in silence.

Well, know, the piece was about the third piece that I wrote. And let me say that we wrote. And when it came time, we laid the album down. And then everybody looked at me, what are we going to call this? And I told them, I said, I don’t know. I said, I’ll get back to you later. So you know what I did. I went to sleep.

Julie Hilsen (25:38)
Took a nap.

Gretta Chamberlain (25:39)
Right? And I said, okay, what are we going to call this album? And so it came to me in silence. But see, the piece that I had written was called The Silence. So I said, well, we’ll take that piece, make it the first piece in the album, and we’ll just change the name from The Silence to In Silence. I’d like to read, if you don’t mind, a quote from the realm in this piece.

Julie Hilsen (26:07)
Yes,

because that’s what I felt when I was listening. was like, this is poetry. This is something to be celebrated and immersed in. So yes, I would love to hear you read it and just let people know these are words, these are frequencies and gifts. So yay, this is a delight. Thank you.

Gretta Chamberlain (26:23)
Thanks.

So we applied for a Grammy. So we made it through stage one because not everybody’s application is accepted. So we got to stage two, which means we’re Grammy considered. So we can still say that we’re a Grammy considered album. And we were placed not in the spoken word section, but we were placed in the ambiance chant.

and meditation section.

Julie Hilsen (26:58)
Yeah, because it’s

new. probably were, they were probably trying, like when you applied for psychology school, the admissions people, they’re like, she doesn’t quite fit. We need to figure out where to put her. And so, you know, this is innovative music and poetry. So, yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (27:08)
Yeah.

live. So the one

quote says, in the silence of your mind, see the treasures of the spirit that abides deep inside of your inner being. That’s just one quote from it.

Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (27:31)
And to me that is where if I could give humanity one thing is that every person know that they’re divine beings, that they’re special. And to live that way with that filter that everything you are and be is divine. I mean, if that’s one thing I could.

Gretta Chamberlain (27:52)
Absolutely.

Julie Hilsen (27:56)
have humanity grasp. It makes me tear up thinking about it because it would change everything. Everyone would walk around like kings and queens. And I think we just take care of ourselves and everyone around us so much better. If if we really internalize the treasures, like you said in inside of you. And we were giving so much. There’s so much to be grateful for.

Gretta Chamberlain (28:05)
Absolutely. Absolutely.

Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (28:22)
Thank you for that. Thank you realm of beings.

Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (28:26)
Yes,

it’s always, you know, I find working with people and I can identify with it because I was like that myself. And that is that we see everything external. We see everything external. And what I’ve learned from the realm of beings and this is something that we teach that really is it’s internal.

The challenges that we give to ourselves and the solutions are internal, not external. Yeah, so we really encourage everybody to seek insight. When you seek insight, then you don’t have time to blame somebody else for your challenge. There’s no need.

when you understand that you create your own reality and you’re responsible for that, your own personal reality. You know, I tell people, you’ll know when it’s, cause some people ask me, well, how do I know when it’s mine and somebody else’s? I tell them, said, if it is personally affecting you, if you are going through this on a personal level,

Julie Hilsen (29:34)
Mmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (29:46)
It’s yours. It’s yours. And you want to claim it because that gives you the power. That gives you the impetus to be able to initiate change. see, so I tell people don’t back away from it. Face it. The realm is always saying these lessons that we have are not for us to succumb to them, but to overcome them.

That’s the purpose, you see. And we can always change. We’re never fixed in anything, ever.

Julie Hilsen (30:21)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (30:22)
Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (30:22)
That’s wise. And I think when someone’s hurting, it’s harder to say, did this to myself. Like, why would you hurt yourself? But you’re saying use that hurt, use that feeling to propel you to where you wanna go because you’ve somehow contributed to it and it’s part of you.

because you feel it, it’s in you. So it’s part of you. that the whole, it’s the law of one, which is really hard to do that in a human body. At times, sometimes it’s easy. Sometimes it’s really easy, orgasm, it’s easy. A lot of times it’s not.

Gretta Chamberlain (30:59)
Oh my goodness, I remember.

Yes, yes.

Yeah. Yeah.

You know, I, one of the spiritual mothers that I had when I started, now I’m in my thirties. I’m telling you this, I’m in my thirties and I got together. I was asked to sing. one of my mother’s friends belonged to the religious science church or religion, however you want to say it. And she said,

Julie Hilsen (31:20)
Okay.

Gretta Chamberlain (31:32)
We need another singer for the quartet,” one person dropped out. And I said, wow. I said, she said, Gret, I want you to go ahead and, you know, apply for it. I’ll tell Reverend Vera that you’re coming. So I set up an appointment and I met with Vera, who’s no longer in this reality any longer. But I met with her and we were talking and talking. I think we talked for about two hours.

interviewing me for two hours and we were just talking and talking. And then she said, she said, okay, I’m going to hire you. And I said, oh, thank you. And she gave me how, where I had to go to join the group to practice and you know, the whole thing. And I think they, they were paying me $25 a Sunday, you know, and I said, oh, that’ll put gas in my tank. That’ll cover that. So I’ll take it, you know.

Julie Hilsen (32:30)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (32:30)
was someplace to go and sing and I love singing so I said yes. So that was another introduction through religious means of me beginning to understand this. You know Ernest Holmes is the one that created that developed the science of mine so you have to study his book.

but I hadn’t started studying it. I just listened to Vera give her lectures every Sunday, every Sunday. And so I’m learning about creation of reality, you know, and I’m not really, it’s, you know, know how something, pick up something and goes past you like that? Well, it was going past you like that for a while and then it started to sink in and I’m going, oh wow. So I started this class.

for religious science with some of my friends and Vera started and then she left and moved to California and then Claudine came on and became our teacher. And I remember I had gotten to class early and she just looked over at me and she said, know Greta, you create your own reality. I’m telling you, you want to know somebody who was shocked.

I can’t even tell you what I said to her because it was inappropriate.

Julie Hilsen (33:48)
Yeah

Gretta Chamberlain (33:50)
But I told her, you really telling me that I created all of this blank? Okay.

Julie Hilsen (33:56)
Yeah,

yeah, that’s a very good question.

Gretta Chamberlain (33:59)
And

she said, yes, I am. I said, you got to be kidding me, Claudine. You can’t tell me that I created that. So when I’m teaching it and people start saying the same thing, I chuckle to myself because I know from whence I came. So it’s not always the easiest concept to grasp because it makes you. I mean, when you understand you create your own reality.

Julie Hilsen (34:14)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (34:27)
and that you are responsible for what you created. That makes you take a look at yourself.

Julie Hilsen (34:33)
Yeah, you say this like what’s your problem?

Gretta Chamberlain (34:36)
You know, and I’m going, God. So yeah, so it’s been 40 years have passed now. So that’s what we teach the realm of beings that everybody creates their own reality. And there are other channelers out there talking about the same thing and other people writing books about it. You know, you create your own reality. Yeah, I’m so happy I learned that.

Julie Hilsen (34:38)
you

I hear you.

Gretta Chamberlain (35:00)
Yes, yes, yes. Because then I never feel stuck in something. I just have to solve it. ⁓

Julie Hilsen (35:09)
Yeah, get deep into

your heart and ask what what’s in there? What’s in there? I always ask myself, how can I respond with the most respect and love for myself? what it how can I get through this in a loving way? And even if it’s conflict with somebody else, me coming from my heart, I know I’m not going to make a mistake. And I did the best I could. With the time I had the resources I had the perspective I was able to gain. And

you know, sometimes, you know, but you do it differently looking at 20 years ago, but that’s part of it all.

Gretta Chamberlain (35:44)
Absolutely. It’s so wonderful. Life is really an interesting situation. Very interesting. I love it even though I have created all kinds of things. I was experiencing congestive heart failure.

And I remember I was looking at the news and this one basketball player, they were talking about him. He was on pro basketball and died. And they said he died of congestive heart failure. And that dawned on me. said, I’m not dying from congestive heart failure. I know I created to have it. I know I created to experience it, but I’m not dying from it.

So it took me five years or so and I went to the doctor. He gave me a new doctor because my other doctor had left, moved away. And before he moved away, he had me do a heart test, echogram or some other things. And so I’m with the new doctor and he’s telling me the results of the tests and he didn’t say anything about my heart. So I’m saying, what about my heart? And he says, what about it?

I said, well, how is it doing? He said, it’s doing fine. Yeah, and that’s when I knew I had cured myself. Yeah, see, that’s the other thing. We can cure ourselves. I tell people when I do the facilitation work, which some people call healing.

I don’t, it’s transformational healing, but I let everybody know I’m not healing you, neither is the realm healing you. You are healing yourself. The only thing we’re doing is giving you support. That is it. But you must do it. You know? And I tell you my story. Yeah, yeah. I had, I was standing in my kitchen and I held my chest. said,

Julie Hilsen (37:34)
Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (37:42)
My chest is beginning to hurt. What’s happening? And of course I asked them. I said, Realm, what’s going on with me? And you know, they’re just very nonchalant. You know, they don’t get excited over it. You know, they just said, you’re having a heart attack. And I said, I’m what? You’re having a heart attack? I said, no, no, no, no, no. So I went, I sat down on my couch and I said, look hard.

We’re not going through this. We don’t have time to go to the hospital. I don’t have time to be in an ambulance. I said, so let’s just calm down, calm down. It’s okay. It’s okay. don’t have to, whatever you think, whatever you got from my unconscious, let that go. Let that go. We’re okay. You know? And I gave it some light blue energy. I talked to it. I held that. I said, I want you to know I love you so much. You don’t have to do this.

You don’t. So finally you can.

Julie Hilsen (38:37)
Yeah, I

see you, I see you. You know, like that’s a huge, that’s a huge thing. And yeah, that’s really great, great advice. And I feel like I’ve healed, I do not like the hospital and I will work on my frequency to keep myself out of any kind of medical care because I do not, do not. I went to the hospital one time.

One time in the last, I was in the hospital and my mother-in-law was passing away. That was in 2020. And I went back because one of my sweet friends who I teach therapeutic tennis to, she was having a big surgery and I wanted to help her mom. And I went to the hospital for her in November. And so it had been five years. And I’m like, Chris, you are the only person I’d enter the hospital for.

Gretta Chamberlain (39:32)
You

Julie Hilsen (39:34)
I do not want to be in that energy. Getting calm and letting… And a lot of times there’s phases of your life and giving attention to those phases can make a big difference versus ignoring and pushing through.

Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (39:49)
Yeah,

everything is, you know, this whole life is very beautiful because the way it’s constructed for us is that we’re learning lessons. That’s what this about. I said lessons are constant. Somebody asked me, a young man that I’m facilitating for, he said, he said, I want to know, I’m trying to decide my career.

I said, you’re trying to find a career for yourself. He said, yes. So he’s thinking of career as he’s going to stay in it. I told him, said, you’re constantly changing. We’re going to be constantly changing. I said, look at me. I started off as one thing. Now I’m something else. I’m doing something else. I said, we never stop. This is the adventure. I call it the fun house. Yes.

Julie Hilsen (40:41)
No one else, yes.

Gretta Chamberlain (40:44)
My mom used to take me when I was a little girl, that was the big thing we did, was to take me to Riverview. That was before we had Great America and Disneyland and all those places. She’d take me every year. And when she paid the money, it took us a long time to get there. And when we got there and she paid the money, I was always so excited to go to the fun house, to go to Riverview.

And when you go to Riverview, when you pay your money, the first thing you’re going to see is the fun house. So you know, you go into the fun house and you get to see yourself in all those mirrors and the situations. You know, you can see yourself tall, can see yourself fat, can see, you know, all kinds of things, big heads, little hands. You know, I just enjoyed it, enjoyed it, enjoyed it.

Julie Hilsen (41:22)
Yeah.

It’s like

Snapchat, people. you’ve ever been to a fun house, it’s Snapchat filters.

Gretta Chamberlain (41:39)
Thank you, thank you. How else you get into the other part where it’s all dark. It’s scary, yes. And my mother was my hero because I would hold her hand while we’re walking through. know, things pop out, whoop, you know.

Julie Hilsen (41:41)
Yeah.

Gary. ⁓

Gretta Chamberlain (41:57)
And it’s kind of scary. And I remember we went to one section of the fun house and it was nothing but a wall. She said, Greta, we have to turn around and we have to go another way. And I was scared. said, ⁓ how are we? Yes, how will we get out? How will we get out? You know, and then you see the light. I said, my mom did it again. She got us out. I’m safe. You see, so.

Julie Hilsen (42:11)
We have to go past all that again.

Gretta Chamberlain (42:26)
Life is like that. We go from fun things and stuff and then all of sudden we’re walking in and we say, how in the heck did I get here?

Julie Hilsen (42:35)
How am I gonna get out? And then you ask for, it’s such a great metaphor. It’s so powerful.

Gretta Chamberlain (42:37)
I’m going to do.

You know, yeah, how am I gonna, and mama comes out every time. She’s my hero, yeah. So, yeah.

Julie Hilsen (42:44)
Yeah. How am I?

And your

hero could be, you know, asking for help. Your hero could be whatever resource you go to, how you lift up your head and see the gifts that are there. There’s heroes around you all the time.

Gretta Chamberlain (43:04)
Absolutely,

Yes. You know, I tell people that some people tell me when talking about gifts, I know you weren’t referring to this type of gift, but some people tell me I have gifts, Greta. And I tell them, said, no, you don’t. They said, what do you mean? I said, you don’t have any gifts. I said, a gift is something you get from somebody else that you’ve never had before. I said,

Every human being that you see that is here in this reality with you has psychic abilities. Every last person. There’s nobody here that doesn’t. And I told them, well, they said, well, how does this happen? I said, because you choose. See, we choose our reality. So we choose what abilities that we want to activate.

Julie Hilsen (43:45)
right.

Gretta Chamberlain (43:59)
You know, that’s what we do. We choose what we want to activate. Because some people, go, can I do what you do? Sure you can do what I do. It’s no secret. You just have to learn it. You know? So it’s amazing, you know? I said no gifts, no gifts, it’s abilities. And if you have an ability you don’t want, then get rid of it. You know, I had the ability for the life of me, can’t.

I can’t fathom, still can’t fathom how I created it, but reading people’s minds. Like I can hear you and I are talking now. I hear the conversation in your mind. It’s like you’re talking to me, but I would hear your thoughts. Like we’re having a conversation. But it became so daunting because with my friends, I would say,

Julie Hilsen (44:32)
What’s that?

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (44:53)
You remember when you said so and so and so and so and they would tell me, Greta, I never said that. I said, what do you mean you never said that? They said, I never said that. And then I know I said, don’t, I’ve read that person’s mind. So I said to myself, I don’t care how I got this, but you can take it. I don’t want to be walking down the street and listening to everybody’s thoughts.

Julie Hilsen (45:14)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (45:23)
I don’t want to hear that. I don’t want to even deal with that. So it left because it’s like when you have something and you really don’t want it, you don’t have to keep it. I love it.

Julie Hilsen (45:37)
Right.

Yeah, because you’d be a hoarder if you kept things that weren’t serving you, you’re hoarding. You gotta thank it and let it go. Okay.

Gretta Chamberlain (45:46)
Right, so I didn’t want it,

you know, I didn’t want it. And I’m sure other people have it. I said, well, you can keep it if you want it. I don’t want it. You know, it’s too challenging because I couldn’t tell when somebody when I read the mind or when they actually told me I said, this is getting really confusing. just kind of fare thee well, you know. Yeah, yeah.

Julie Hilsen (46:04)
Mm-hmm.

I love that. I mean, with our children and the people we love, I guess how we could foster that in them, because we were talking about star seeds and these beautiful souls that are entering that seem so wise. Like, I don’t know, I look at babies in the shopping, you know, in the grocery store, I’m like, they’re just so wise. I can see it in their eyes. They know things that, that I, yeah, it’s so, I would, you know, I guess from what you’re saying, what I want to project is

Gretta Chamberlain (46:31)
⁓ yeah.

Julie Hilsen (46:39)
know, cherish each person, let everyone in your life know that they’re precious and listen and honor them.

Gretta Chamberlain (46:44)
way.

Yeah, because you know what we don’t realize is that when we’re honoring another person, we are honoring ourselves as well. Because as humans, one of the characteristics of being human is that we see separation. That’s one of the characteristics. That’s also a lesson that we want to overcome. So we want to get to the point that

we see the other person as myself. I’m one with that person. There’s really no separation between us. I don’t care what we do, whatever. Do you know? Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (47:30)
Boy, that would make a lot of conflicts in our world a lot less interesting. We didn’t have field like we needed to pick sides. We could honor and just get through things.

Gretta Chamberlain (47:40)
Yeah.

You know, I’d like to share this story with you in the audience. I had come out of a, I’m going back to clinical psych now. I had come out of a group therapy session. I wasn’t conducting it. I was just observing it. And I had to get the key.

and to the office that I was going to go to. Now, why this company only had one key for you to use to go to the rooms I had not followed, but when I went up to the desk to get the key, they said Greta, the key’s not available now. Somebody else has it. You have to wait till they bring it back. So I said, okay. So I go and I sit down and I’m sitting next to a woman who was in the group therapy class. Okay.

So she starts talking to me and something says, be quiet and listen. So she tells me, you know, people don’t realize when they see someone homeless on the street and they’re asking for assistance, they don’t realize, and they just walk past. She said, they just walk past. She says, they don’t realize.

that they’re walking past God.

she said to me. So I didn’t say anything. I said, thank you for that. Thank you. So here’s a woman that just came out of group therapy who lives in a residential facility for people who are having challenges, mental challenges and conditions. But she recognizes the spirituality that we are all God.

Julie Hilsen (49:01)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (49:19)
And the realm of beings takes it even further that we are all the force. That there’s a duality, we’re the force. And the force is that which creates all of existence. Not just Earth, not just this universe, but all of existence. You see.

Julie Hilsen (49:38)
That was on my list of things because I was watching one of your YouTube videos and you said, are all the force. it was the last thing on my show notes that I was going to ask you about. So you might still be reading people’s minds, Greta.

Gretta Chamberlain (49:53)
don’t know it right.

Julie Hilsen (49:55)
They’re just doing it the

down low.

Gretta Chamberlain (49:57)
Anything is possible here. But yeah, we talk about duality, that we’re duality. We talk about that we’re always the force. Everybody is the force. What we’re dealing with are personalities. That’s what we’re dealing with here. You have a push.

Julie Hilsen (50:14)
So

that’s how we can create our own reality is because we are the force. We are creation, manifestation.

Gretta Chamberlain (50:20)
Absolutely.

Absolutely. But you know, we, we, but see the characteristics of being human, also one of the characteristics is that we forget that. We forget that we’re the force, you see. So what we’re doing, part of that, all of us, regardless of where we are at in our understanding, we’re, going back to that, to that premise.

knowing that I am the force and I’ve been the force all along. Some people tell me that’s blasphemy, but that’s okay for them to say that because that is where that person is. So I accept everybody to be where they are, you know, and what they’re going to accept and what they’re not going to accept, you know, it’s okay. It’s okay. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (51:01)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Gretta Chamberlain (51:17)
Because everybody, like you’ve been saying today, you’ve been using that word precious. You know, I’ve been listening to you say that. So in the honoring of each individual, regardless of what their personality is showing us, we must know that they are the force. And whatever reality that they choose for their lessons is OK.

Julie Hilsen (51:44)
Mm-hmm.

Gretta Chamberlain (51:44)
Who am

I to tell you don’t do that? Who am I? I can’t, I just can’t do that. I created a situation where I was experiencing alcoholism. Everybody, you’ve been an alcoholic? I said, sure have. So I’m not gonna tell you don’t do that.

It’s just that it might not be the best for your health, but I’m not going to tell you don’t do that. You know, because I had to learn from that. And what does it, what is that about? That learning is about loving ourselves.

Julie Hilsen (52:25)
giving yourself boundaries and taking care of yourself.

Gretta Chamberlain (52:30)
Absolutely.

My daughter, I was driving her to school one day. She was in fourth grade then, so she might have been eight years old. And she said to me, Mommy, who do you love the most? And I told her, I said, me. And she said, you don’t love me the most? said, of course not. I said, I have to love me. She was so outdone.

I said, Kai, if I don’t know how to love and be involved in myself, love myself, if I can’t do that, then how can I truly love you?

You know, so she said, okay. So she accepted.

You know, so that’s it. I tell people the first person is to love yourself, appreciate yourself, because when you’re loving yourself, you’re loving the divinity, your divine aspect of yourself that stays with you at every moment that you are existing. It never goes away. We are never alone.

It appears that way. We can go through something and say, I feel lonely. Yeah, because you don’t get that physical stuff that’s not there, or a physical person is not there, but you’re really never alone. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (53:56)
Well, thank you. This is such a great contribution to Life of Love. I do thank you so much for sharing all this. And I’m excited to share it with everybody

on schedule for that. be sure to put a link to the Spotify and Apple Music where people can find your album. is just glorious.

Gretta Chamberlain (54:17)
And it’s YouTube.

That’s why we have a YouTube channel. ⁓ yeah, Dr. Greta is the YouTube channel. Yeah.

Julie Hilsen (54:21)
the other YouTube. Okay, I’ll put that.

Gretta Chamberlain (54:26)
thank you. Thank you for having me. And I’m so pleased and happy to have been with your family. I call your community the family.

Julie Hilsen (54:38)
Family, that’s great. They are, they’re definitely. Thanks family. And I thank your family, those realms of beings. This has just been a delight.

Gretta Chamberlain (54:44)
way.

Thank you, thank you very much.